Professor Ewan Fernie, Chair of Shakespeare Studies at the University of Birmingham's Shakespeare Institute in Stratford-upon-Avon, chats to Lucy Vernall from Ideas Lab about Redcrosse, a new poetic liturgy written by Ewan, former poet laureate Andrew Motion, award-winning poets Jo Shapcott and Michael Symmons Roberts, and Andrew Shanks, the canon theologian of Manchester Cathedral. The liturgy aims to reinvigorate and offer a new exploration of St George and Englishness, and to produce an inclusive celebration that will ultimately bring people together.